How to get rid of transaction IDs in CICS/TS that begin with "C"?

Post by Michael Rosinger
Is there a way around this? Is there another way to purge that resource?

Yeah, it's called "COLD" start. ;-)

Sincerely,

Dave Clark

DAPSCO Information Systems
3110 Kettering Boulevard
Dayton, Ohio 45439
(937) 294-5331

R***@aol.com

2004-05-13 18:40:31 UTC

Is there a way around this? Is there another way to purge that resource?<

Been there, tried that and have NOT been able to find a way to DISCARD transactions beginning with C. Then again, why do you care. Next time a recycle occurs, w/Cold Start, they'll be gone.

Michael Rosinger

2004-05-13 19:30:36 UTC

Bob/Dave,

I DID perform a cold start. The transaction IDs still show up in CEMT. I've disabled them - but they are still there. They do NOT show up in CEDA anywhere. See below:

F2 0002 DFHPA1101 PRODCICS DFHSITSP IS BEING LOADED.
F2 0002 DFHPA1108 PRODCICS DFHSITSP HAS BEEN LOADED. (GENERATED AT: MM/DD= 11/17 HH:MM= 08:02).
F2 0002 DFHPA1100 PRODCICS OVERRIDE PARAMETERS FROM JCL EXEC STATEMENT:
F2 0002 DFHPA1927 PRODCICS APPLID=PRODCICS,START=AUTO,EDSALIM=25M,SI
F2 0002 DFHPA1102 PRODCICS OVERRIDE PARAMETERS FROM SYSIPT:
F2 0002 DFHPA1927 PRODCICS SIT=SP,STATRCD=OFF,SVA=NO,MXT=20,NEWSIT=YES, GRPLIST=CCILIST
F2 0002 DFHPA1103 PRODCICS END OF FILE ON SYSIPT.
F2 0002 DFHTR0103 TRACE TABLE SIZE IS 80K
F2 0002 DFHSM0122I PRODCICS Limit of DSA storage below 16MB is 5,120K.
F2 0002 DFHSM0123I PRODCICS Limit of DSA storage above 16MB is 25M.
F2 0002 DFHSM0113I PRODCICS Storage protection is not active.
F2 0002 DFHSM0120I PRODCICS Reentrant programs will not be loaded into read-only storage.
F2 0110 DFHDM0101I PRODCICS CICS is initializing.
F2 0112 DFHXS1100I PRODCICS Security initialization has started.
F2 0112 DFHWB0109I PRODCICS Web domain initialization has started.
F2 0112 DFHSO0100I PRODCICS Sockets domain initialization has started.
F2 0112 DFHDH0100I PRODCICS Document domain initialization has started.
F2 0112 DFHSI1500 PRODCICS CICS startup is in progress for CICS Transaction Server Version 1.1.1
F2 0112 DFHXS1105 PRODCICS Resource profiles for class TCICSTRN have been built.
F2 0112 DFHXS1103I PRODCICS Default security for userid CICSUSER has been established.
F2 0112 DFHSI1501I PRODCICS Loading CICS nucleus.
F2 0112 DFHXS1101I PRODCICS Security initialization has ended.
F2 0112 DFHWB0110I PRODCICS Web domain initialization has ended.
F2 0112 DFHSO0101I PRODCICS Sockets domain initialization has ended.
F2 0112 DFHMN0105I PRODCICS Using default Monitoring Control Table.
F2 0112 DFHMN0110I PRODCICS CICS Monitoring is inactive.
F2 0112 DFHST0103 PRODCICS A DMF error has occurred with return code X'10'.
F2 0112 DFHDH0101I PRODCICS Document domain initialization has ended.
F2 0112 DFHSI1502I PRODCICS CICS startup is Cold. <===========
F2 0112 DFHSI1503I PRODCICS Terminal data sets are being opened.
F2 0112 DFHDU0304I PRODCICS Transaction Dump Data set DFHDMPA opened.
F2 0112 DFHCP0101I PRODCICS CPI initialization has started.
F2 0112 DFHPR0104I PRODCICS Partner resource manager initialization has started.
F2 0112 DFHTS0100I PRODCICS Temporary Storage initialization has started.
F2 0112 DFHTD0100I PRODCICS Transient Data initialization has started.
F2 0112 DFHAI0101I PRODCICS AITM initialization has started.
F2 0112 DFHFC0100I PRODCICS File Control initialization has started.
F2 0112 DFHFC0101I PRODCICS File Control initialization has ended.
F2 0112 DFHTD0101I PRODCICS Transient Data initialization has ended.
F2 0112 DFHCP0102I PRODCICS CPI initialization has ended.
F2 0112 DFHPR0105I PRODCICS Partner resource manager initialization has ended.
F2 0112 DFHAI0102I PRODCICS AITM initialization has ended.
F2 0112 DFHSI1511I PRODCICS Installing group list CCILIST .
F2 0112 DFHAP1203I PRODCICS Language Environment for VSE/ESA is being initialized.
F2 0112 CEE3550I LE/VSE C/VSE Run-Time initialized
F2 0112 CEE3551I LE/VSE COBOL Run-Time initialized
F2 0112 CEE3552I LE/VSE PL/I Run-Time initialized
F2 0112 DFHWB1007 PRODCICS Initializing CICS Web environment.
F2 0112 DFHWB1008 PRODCICS CICS Web environment initialization is complete.
F2 0112 DFHSI8430I PRODCICS About to link to PLT programs during the third stage of initialization.
F2 0115 K002I BEGIN ICCF INITIALIZATION
F2 0115 K042I VSE ACCESS CONTROL NOT ACTIVE, VSE/ICCF ACCESS CONTROL ACTIVE
F2 0115 K481I DYNAMIC FILE SPACE INITIALIZATION BYPASSED
F2 0115 K001I DEVICE TYPE IS ECKD
F2 0115 K088I HI FILE RECORDS= 580,591 (66%)
F2 0112 K029I ICCF INITIALIZATION COMPLETED
F2 0112 IESC1055I ABOUT TO START SERVER TASK
F2 0112 <CMTI104> PRODCICS BATCH MASTER TERMINAL PROGRAM ENABLED BY PLTPI
F2 0112 DFHSI8434I PRODCICS Control returned from PLT programs during the third stage of initialization.
F2 0112 DFHSI1517 PRODCICS Control is being given to CICS.
F2 0112 DFHFC0208I PRODCICS
LSR pool 1 is being built dynamically by CICS because the following
are not defined: 'CI SIZE' 'STRINGS' 'MAXKEYLENGTH' . A delay
is possible.

I TRANS(CMIM)
STATUS: RESULTS - OVERTYPE TO MODIFY
Tra(CMIM) Pri( 001 ) Pro(CMIM001 ) Tcl( DFHTCL00 ) Dis
Prf(DFHCICST) Uda Bel

I PROG(CMIM*)
STATUS: RESULTS - OVERTYPE TO MODIFY
Prog(CMIM* ) NOT FOUND

Is there a way around this? Is there another way to purge that resource?<

Been there, tried that and have NOT been able to find a way to DISCARD transactions beginning with C. Then again, why do you care. Next time a recycle occurs, w/Cold Start, they'll be gone.

--
Michael Rosinger
Systems Programmer/DBA
Computer Credit, Inc.
640 W. 4th Street
Winston-Salem, NC 27101
voice : 336-761-1524
fax : 336-761-8852
email : mrosinger at cciws dot com

i***@dapsco.com

2004-05-13 19:47:54 UTC

Post by Michael Rosinger
I DID perform a cold start. The transaction IDs still show
up in CEMT. I've disabled them - but they are still there.
They do NOT show up in CEDA anywhere.

You used this in CEDA? EX G(*) TRAN(CMIM)
Does CICS/TS still have PCT's?
Delete and define your resource dataset before COLD start?

Sincerely,

Dave Clark

DAPSCO Information Systems
3110 Kettering Boulevard
Dayton, Ohio 45439
(937) 294-5331

Michael Rosinger

2004-05-14 11:09:27 UTC

Dave, Bob, et-al,

Thank you for all the great responses. I am trying to respond to all of
the great ideas you've posted here in 1 response.

1) Here is the result from CEDA command:

EXP G(*) TRANS(CM*)
ENTER COMMANDS
NAME TYPE GROUP DATE
TIME
CMSG TRANSACTION DFHCOMP1 03.316
14.51.45
CMTS TRANSACTION DFHCOMP1 03.316
14.51.48
CMPX TRANSACTION DFHISC 03.316
14.48.22
CMSG TRANSACTION DFHMSWIT 03.316
14.48.32
CMTS TRANSACTION DFHSPI 03.316
14.48.58

2) I checked the SYSLST output from the CICS/TS in question. There is no
reference to the transaction "CMIM".

3) All the other changes I made to RDO via CEDA have taken affect. I
just can't seem to get rid of this CMIM transaction.

I TRANS(CMIM)
STATUS: RESULTS - OVERTYPE TO MODIFY
Tra(CMIM) Pri( 001 ) Pro(CMIM001 ) Tcl( DFHTCL00 ) Dis
Prf(DFHCICST) Uda Bel

4) Here is my PLT. There is no reference to anything from ConnectMailbox
- just a MacKinney program. I verified that there is only 1 instance of
the copybook IESZPLTI and it is the IBM-supplied one in IJSYSRS.SYSLIB:

// EXEC ASSEMBLY,SIZE=512K
TITLE 'DFHPLTPI'
DFHPLT TYPE=INITIAL,SUFFIX=PI
SPACE 3
*---------------------------------------------------------------------*
* *
* VSE/ESA ENTRIES FOR PLTPI FOLLOW HERE *
* *
*---------------------------------------------------------------------*
COPY IESZPLTI COPY VSE/ESA INCL. VSE/ICCF ENTRIES
*---------------------------------------------------------------------*
* LOCAL ENTRIES SHOULD BE MADE AFTER THIS POINT *
*---------------------------------------------------------------------*
DFHPLT TYPE=ENTRY,PROGRAM=MTPPPLT
*********************************************************************
SPACE 3
DFHPLT TYPE=FINAL
END
/*
// EXEC LNKEDT

5) UCTRAN on the terminal session is not a factor.

Post by i***@dapsco.com

Post by Michael Rosinger
I DID perform a cold start. The transaction IDs still show
up in CEMT. I've disabled them - but they are still there.
They do NOT show up in CEDA anywhere.

You used this in CEDA? EX G(*) TRAN(CMIM)
Does CICS/TS still have PCT's?
Delete and define your resource dataset before COLD start?
Sincerely,
Dave Clark
DAPSCO Information Systems
3110 Kettering Boulevard
Dayton, Ohio 45439
(937) 294-5331

--
Michael Rosinger
Systems Programmer/DBA
Computer Credit, Inc.
640 W. 4th Street
Winston-Salem, NC 27101
voice : 336-761-1524
fax : 336-761-8852
email : mrosinger at cciws dot com

Chuck Arney

2004-05-13 20:02:02 UTC

I am not really a CICS person, but I remember many moons ago when CICS/TS
came out on MVS. With TS, START=COLD did not work like COLD used to work.
To completely throw everything away and install the definitions from scratch
you had to do a START=INITIAL. I am assuming TS under VSE is the same way.
Did you do a START=COLD or START=INITIAL?

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-----Original Message-----
Michael Rosinger
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 2:31 PM
To: VSE Discussion List
Subject: Re: How to get rid of transaction IDs in CICS/TS that begin with
"C"?
Bob/Dave,
I DID perform a cold start. The transaction IDs still show up in CEMT.
I've disabled them - but they are still there. They do NOT show up in CEDA

John Lawson

2004-05-13 21:07:50 UTC

Michael,
A cold start of the CICS TS partition (START=COLD) will reload all the
transaction and program definitions contained in the groups listed in your
start grouplist (SIT GRPLIST). So either the transactions and programs are
in a group in your startup list or the definitions are being created by the
new EXEC CICS CREATE program interface in either a program invoked during
PLT start processing or by another program executed after CICS is started.
You might check the SYSLST output for the CICS partition since install of
resources are logged to CICS transient data destinations that normally end
up in the CICS partition SYSLST output.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Rosinger" <***@cciws.com>
To: "VSE Discussion List" <vse-***@Lehigh.EDU>
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 2:30 PM
Subject: Re: How to get rid of transaction IDs in CICS/TS that begin with
"C"?

Post by Michael Rosinger
Bob/Dave,
I DID perform a cold start. The transaction IDs still show up in CEMT.

I've disabled them - but they are still there. They do NOT show up in CEDA

Post by Michael Rosinger
F2 0002 DFHPA1101 PRODCICS DFHSITSP IS BEING LOADED.

MM/DD= 11/17 HH:MM= 08:02).

Post by Michael Rosinger
F2 0002 DFHPA1927 PRODCICS APPLID=PRODCICS,START=AUTO,EDSALIM=25M,SI
F2 0002 DFHPA1927 PRODCICS SIT=SP,STATRCD=OFF,SVA=NO,MXT=20,NEWSIT=YES, GRPLIST=CCILIST
F2 0002 DFHPA1103 PRODCICS END OF FILE ON SYSIPT.
F2 0002 DFHTR0103 TRACE TABLE SIZE IS 80K
F2 0002 DFHSM0122I PRODCICS Limit of DSA storage below 16MB is 5,120K.
F2 0002 DFHSM0123I PRODCICS Limit of DSA storage above 16MB is 25M.
F2 0002 DFHSM0113I PRODCICS Storage protection is not active.
F2 0002 DFHSM0120I PRODCICS Reentrant programs will not be loaded into read-only storage.
F2 0110 DFHDM0101I PRODCICS CICS is initializing.
F2 0112 DFHXS1100I PRODCICS Security initialization has started.
F2 0112 DFHWB0109I PRODCICS Web domain initialization has started.
F2 0112 DFHSO0100I PRODCICS Sockets domain initialization has started.
F2 0112 DFHDH0100I PRODCICS Document domain initialization has started.
F2 0112 DFHSI1500 PRODCICS CICS startup is in progress for CICS

Transaction Server Version 1.1.1

Post by Michael Rosinger
F2 0112 DFHXS1105 PRODCICS Resource profiles for class TCICSTRN have been built.
F2 0112 DFHXS1103I PRODCICS Default security for userid CICSUSER has been established.
F2 0112 DFHSI1501I PRODCICS Loading CICS nucleus.
F2 0112 DFHXS1101I PRODCICS Security initialization has ended.
F2 0112 DFHWB0110I PRODCICS Web domain initialization has ended.
F2 0112 DFHSO0101I PRODCICS Sockets domain initialization has ended.
F2 0112 DFHMN0105I PRODCICS Using default Monitoring Control Table.
F2 0112 DFHMN0110I PRODCICS CICS Monitoring is inactive.
F2 0112 DFHST0103 PRODCICS A DMF error has occurred with return code X'10'.
F2 0112 DFHDH0101I PRODCICS Document domain initialization has ended.
F2 0112 DFHSI1502I PRODCICS CICS startup is Cold.

<===========

Post by Michael Rosinger
F2 0112 DFHSI1503I PRODCICS Terminal data sets are being opened.
F2 0112 DFHDU0304I PRODCICS Transaction Dump Data set DFHDMPA opened.
F2 0112 DFHCP0101I PRODCICS CPI initialization has started.
F2 0112 DFHPR0104I PRODCICS Partner resource manager initialization has started.
F2 0112 DFHTS0100I PRODCICS Temporary Storage initialization has started.
F2 0112 DFHTD0100I PRODCICS Transient Data initialization has started.
F2 0112 DFHAI0101I PRODCICS AITM initialization has started.
F2 0112 DFHFC0100I PRODCICS File Control initialization has started.
F2 0112 DFHFC0101I PRODCICS File Control initialization has ended.
F2 0112 DFHTD0101I PRODCICS Transient Data initialization has ended.
F2 0112 DFHCP0102I PRODCICS CPI initialization has ended.
F2 0112 DFHPR0105I PRODCICS Partner resource manager initialization has ended.
F2 0112 DFHAI0102I PRODCICS AITM initialization has ended.
F2 0112 DFHSI1511I PRODCICS Installing group list CCILIST .
F2 0112 DFHAP1203I PRODCICS Language Environment for VSE/ESA is being initialized.
F2 0112 CEE3550I LE/VSE C/VSE Run-Time initialized
F2 0112 CEE3551I LE/VSE COBOL Run-Time initialized
F2 0112 CEE3552I LE/VSE PL/I Run-Time initialized
F2 0112 DFHWB1007 PRODCICS Initializing CICS Web environment.
F2 0112 DFHWB1008 PRODCICS CICS Web environment initialization is complete.
F2 0112 DFHSI8430I PRODCICS About to link to PLT programs during the third

stage of initialization.

Post by Michael Rosinger
F2 0115 K002I BEGIN ICCF INITIALIZATION
F2 0115 K042I VSE ACCESS CONTROL NOT ACTIVE, VSE/ICCF ACCESS CONTROL ACTIVE
F2 0115 K481I DYNAMIC FILE SPACE INITIALIZATION BYPASSED
F2 0115 K001I DEVICE TYPE IS ECKD
F2 0115 K088I HI FILE RECORDS= 580,591 (66%)
F2 0112 K029I ICCF INITIALIZATION COMPLETED
F2 0112 IESC1055I ABOUT TO START SERVER TASK
F2 0112 <CMTI104> PRODCICS BATCH MASTER TERMINAL PROGRAM ENABLED BY PLTPI
F2 0112 DFHSI8434I PRODCICS Control returned from PLT programs during the

third stage of initialization.

Post by Michael Rosinger
F2 0112 DFHSI1517 PRODCICS Control is being given to CICS.
F2 0112 DFHFC0208I PRODCICS
LSR pool 1 is being built dynamically by CICS because the following
are not defined: 'CI SIZE' 'STRINGS' 'MAXKEYLENGTH' . A delay
is possible.
I TRANS(CMIM)
STATUS: RESULTS - OVERTYPE TO MODIFY
Tra(CMIM) Pri( 001 ) Pro(CMIM001 ) Tcl( DFHTCL00 ) Dis
Prf(DFHCICST) Uda Bel
I PROG(CMIM*)
STATUS: RESULTS - OVERTYPE TO MODIFY
Prog(CMIM* ) NOT FOUND

Is there a way around this? Is there another way to purge that resource?<

Been there, tried that and have NOT been able to find a way to DISCARD

transactions beginning with C. Then again, why do you care. Next time a
recycle occurs, w/Cold Start, they'll be gone.

Post by Michael Rosinger
--
Michael Rosinger
Systems Programmer/DBA
Computer Credit, Inc.
640 W. 4th Street
Winston-Salem, NC 27101
voice : 336-761-1524
fax : 336-761-8852
email : mrosinger at cciws dot com

John Lawson

2004-05-13 21:12:23 UTC

Michael,
Another thing to check on this, if you are entering CEDA EXPAND GR(*)
TRANS(cm*) on a terminal that is in mixed case i.e. uppercase translate is
not on (UCTRAN in the DEFINE TYPETERM), the CEDA transaction will not find
the definition unless you enter the transaction id or program letters being
searched on in uppercase.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Rosinger" <***@cciws.com>
To: "VSE Discussion List" <vse-***@Lehigh.EDU>
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 2:30 PM
Subject: Re: How to get rid of transaction IDs in CICS/TS that begin with
"C"?

Post by Michael Rosinger
Bob/Dave,
I DID perform a cold start. The transaction IDs still show up in CEMT.

I've disabled them - but they are still there. They do NOT show up in CEDA

Post by Michael Rosinger
F2 0002 DFHPA1101 PRODCICS DFHSITSP IS BEING LOADED.

MM/DD= 11/17 HH:MM= 08:02).

Transaction Server Version 1.1.1

<===========

stage of initialization.

third stage of initialization.

Is there a way around this? Is there another way to purge that resource?<

Been there, tried that and have NOT been able to find a way to DISCARD

transactions beginning with C. Then again, why do you care. Next time a
recycle occurs, w/Cold Start, they'll be gone.

Dick Oden

2004-05-14 12:28:04 UTC

Mike,
You need to delete define DFHRSD,DFHGCD and DFHLCD to do a cold start of
CICS/TS I think you can find examples of the JCL in ICCF lib 59.

Dick Oden Davis Vision

Post by Michael Rosinger
Bob/Dave,
I DID perform a cold start. The transaction IDs still show up in CEMT.
I've disabled them - but they are still there. They do NOT show up in CEDA
F2 0002 DFHPA1101 PRODCICS DFHSITSP IS BEING LOADED.
MM/DD= 11/17 HH:MM= 08:02).
F2 0002 DFHPA1927 PRODCICS APPLID=PRODCICS,START=AUTO,EDSALIM=25M,SI
F2 0002 DFHPA1927 PRODCICS SIT=SP,STATRCD=OFF,SVA=NO,MXT=20,NEWSIT=YES, GRPLIST=CCILIST
F2 0002 DFHPA1103 PRODCICS END OF FILE ON SYSIPT.
F2 0002 DFHTR0103 TRACE TABLE SIZE IS 80K
F2 0002 DFHSM0122I PRODCICS Limit of DSA storage below 16MB is 5,120K.
F2 0002 DFHSM0123I PRODCICS Limit of DSA storage above 16MB is 25M.
F2 0002 DFHSM0113I PRODCICS Storage protection is not active.
F2 0002 DFHSM0120I PRODCICS Reentrant programs will not be loaded into read-only storage.
F2 0110 DFHDM0101I PRODCICS CICS is initializing.
F2 0112 DFHXS1100I PRODCICS Security initialization has started.
F2 0112 DFHWB0109I PRODCICS Web domain initialization has started.
F2 0112 DFHSO0100I PRODCICS Sockets domain initialization has started.
F2 0112 DFHDH0100I PRODCICS Document domain initialization has started.
F2 0112 DFHSI1500 PRODCICS CICS startup is in progress for CICS
Transaction Server Version 1.1.1
F2 0112 DFHXS1105 PRODCICS Resource profiles for class TCICSTRN have been built.
F2 0112 DFHXS1103I PRODCICS Default security for userid CICSUSER has been established.
F2 0112 DFHSI1501I PRODCICS Loading CICS nucleus.
F2 0112 DFHXS1101I PRODCICS Security initialization has ended.
F2 0112 DFHWB0110I PRODCICS Web domain initialization has ended.
F2 0112 DFHSO0101I PRODCICS Sockets domain initialization has ended.
F2 0112 DFHMN0105I PRODCICS Using default Monitoring Control Table.
F2 0112 DFHMN0110I PRODCICS CICS Monitoring is inactive.
F2 0112 DFHST0103 PRODCICS A DMF error has occurred with return code X'10'.
F2 0112 DFHDH0101I PRODCICS Document domain initialization has ended.
F2 0112 DFHSI1502I PRODCICS CICS startup is
Cold. <===========
F2 0112 DFHSI1503I PRODCICS Terminal data sets are being opened.
F2 0112 DFHDU0304I PRODCICS Transaction Dump Data set DFHDMPA opened.
F2 0112 DFHCP0101I PRODCICS CPI initialization has started.
F2 0112 DFHPR0104I PRODCICS Partner resource manager initialization has started.
F2 0112 DFHTS0100I PRODCICS Temporary Storage initialization has started.
F2 0112 DFHTD0100I PRODCICS Transient Data initialization has started.
F2 0112 DFHAI0101I PRODCICS AITM initialization has started.
F2 0112 DFHFC0100I PRODCICS File Control initialization has started.
F2 0112 DFHFC0101I PRODCICS File Control initialization has ended.
F2 0112 DFHTD0101I PRODCICS Transient Data initialization has ended.
F2 0112 DFHCP0102I PRODCICS CPI initialization has ended.
F2 0112 DFHPR0105I PRODCICS Partner resource manager initialization has ended.
F2 0112 DFHAI0102I PRODCICS AITM initialization has ended.
F2 0112 DFHSI1511I PRODCICS Installing group list CCILIST .
F2 0112 DFHAP1203I PRODCICS Language Environment for VSE/ESA is being initialized.
F2 0112 CEE3550I LE/VSE C/VSE Run-Time initialized
F2 0112 CEE3551I LE/VSE COBOL Run-Time initialized
F2 0112 CEE3552I LE/VSE PL/I Run-Time initialized
F2 0112 DFHWB1007 PRODCICS Initializing CICS Web environment.
F2 0112 DFHWB1008 PRODCICS CICS Web environment initialization is complete.
F2 0112 DFHSI8430I PRODCICS About to link to PLT programs during the third
stage of initialization.
F2 0115 K002I BEGIN ICCF INITIALIZATION
F2 0115 K042I VSE ACCESS CONTROL NOT ACTIVE, VSE/ICCF ACCESS CONTROL ACTIVE
F2 0115 K481I DYNAMIC FILE SPACE INITIALIZATION BYPASSED
F2 0115 K001I DEVICE TYPE IS ECKD
F2 0115 K088I HI FILE RECORDS= 580,591 (66%)
F2 0112 K029I ICCF INITIALIZATION COMPLETED
F2 0112 IESC1055I ABOUT TO START SERVER TASK
F2 0112 <CMTI104> PRODCICS BATCH MASTER TERMINAL PROGRAM ENABLED BY PLTPI
F2 0112 DFHSI8434I PRODCICS Control returned from PLT programs during the
third stage of initialization.
F2 0112 DFHSI1517 PRODCICS Control is being given to CICS.
F2 0112 DFHFC0208I PRODCICS
LSR pool 1 is being built dynamically by CICS because the following
are not defined: 'CI SIZE' 'STRINGS' 'MAXKEYLENGTH' . A delay
is possible.
I TRANS(CMIM)
STATUS: RESULTS - OVERTYPE TO MODIFY
Tra(CMIM) Pri( 001 ) Pro(CMIM001 ) Tcl( DFHTCL00 ) Dis
Prf(DFHCICST) Uda Bel
I PROG(CMIM*)
STATUS: RESULTS - OVERTYPE TO MODIFY
Prog(CMIM* ) NOT FOUND

Is there a way around this? Is there another way to purge that resource?<

Been there, tried that and have NOT been able to find a way to DISCARD

transactions beginning with C. Then again, why do you care. Next time a
recycle occurs, w/Cold Start, they'll be gone.
--
Michael Rosinger
Systems Programmer/DBA
Computer Credit, Inc.
640 W. 4th Street
Winston-Salem, NC 27101
voice : 336-761-1524
fax : 336-761-8852
email : mrosinger at cciws dot com

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Michael Rosinger

2004-05-14 13:29:05 UTC

Dick (and everyone else)...

I found a skeleton named SKCICCLD in lib 59 which infers it is a job for doing a
cold start against a CICS. But the job only deletes/defines the GCD and the LCD --
not the RSD. Is everyone that suggested rebuilding the 3 datasets *certain* that it
is necessary to delete/define the RSD as well?

Post by Dick Oden
Mike,
You need to delete define DFHRSD,DFHGCD and DFHLCD to do a cold start of
CICS/TS I think you can find examples of the JCL in ICCF lib 59.
Dick Oden Davis Vision

Is there a way around this? Is there another way to purge that resource?<

Been there, tried that and have NOT been able to find a way to DISCARD

--
Michael Rosinger
Systems Programmer/DBA
Computer Credit, Inc.
640 W. 4th Street
Winston-Salem, NC 27101
voice : 336-761-1524
fax : 336-761-8852
email : mrosinger at cciws dot com

Dick Oden

2004-05-14 15:32:30 UTC

Mike,
Thats the way I always do cold starts on my CICS'es, I know you're not
supposed to have to delete the two catalogs but I was never able to get rid
of the old removed programs transactions files without doing a delete
define init to all three.

Dick Oden
Davis Vision

Post by Michael Rosinger
Dick (and everyone else)...
I found a skeleton named SKCICCLD in lib 59 which infers it is a job for doing a
cold start against a CICS. But the job only deletes/defines the GCD and the LCD --
not the RSD. Is everyone that suggested rebuilding the 3 datasets *certain* that it
is necessary to delete/define the RSD as well?

Post by Dick Oden
Mike,
You need to delete define DFHRSD,DFHGCD and DFHLCD to do a cold start of
CICS/TS I think you can find examples of the JCL in ICCF lib 59.
Dick Oden Davis Vision

X'10'.

Post by Michael Rosinger
F2 0112 DFHDH0101I PRODCICS Document domain initialization has ended.
F2 0112 DFHSI1502I PRODCICS CICS startup is
Cold. <===========
F2 0112 DFHSI1503I PRODCICS Terminal data sets are being opened.
F2 0112 DFHDU0304I PRODCICS Transaction Dump Data set DFHDMPA opened.
F2 0112 DFHCP0101I PRODCICS CPI initialization has started.
F2 0112 DFHPR0104I PRODCICS Partner resource manager initialization has started.
F2 0112 DFHTS0100I PRODCICS Temporary Storage initialization has started.
F2 0112 DFHTD0100I PRODCICS Transient Data initialization has started.
F2 0112 DFHAI0101I PRODCICS AITM initialization has started.
F2 0112 DFHFC0100I PRODCICS File Control initialization has started.
F2 0112 DFHFC0101I PRODCICS File Control initialization has ended.
F2 0112 DFHTD0101I PRODCICS Transient Data initialization has ended.
F2 0112 DFHCP0102I PRODCICS CPI initialization has ended.
F2 0112 DFHPR0105I PRODCICS Partner resource manager initialization

has ended.

Post by Michael Rosinger
F2 0112 DFHAI0102I PRODCICS AITM initialization has ended.
F2 0112 DFHSI1511I PRODCICS Installing group list CCILIST .
F2 0112 DFHAP1203I PRODCICS Language Environment for VSE/ESA is being initialized.
F2 0112 CEE3550I LE/VSE C/VSE Run-Time initialized
F2 0112 CEE3551I LE/VSE COBOL Run-Time initialized
F2 0112 CEE3552I LE/VSE PL/I Run-Time initialized
F2 0112 DFHWB1007 PRODCICS Initializing CICS Web environment.
F2 0112 DFHWB1008 PRODCICS CICS Web environment initialization is

complete.

Post by Michael Rosinger
F2 0112 DFHSI8430I PRODCICS About to link to PLT programs during the third
stage of initialization.
F2 0115 K002I BEGIN ICCF INITIALIZATION
F2 0115 K042I VSE ACCESS CONTROL NOT ACTIVE, VSE/ICCF ACCESS CONTROL

ACTIVE

Post by Michael Rosinger
F2 0115 K481I DYNAMIC FILE SPACE INITIALIZATION BYPASSED
F2 0115 K001I DEVICE TYPE IS ECKD
F2 0115 K088I HI FILE RECORDS= 580,591 (66%)
F2 0112 K029I ICCF INITIALIZATION COMPLETED
F2 0112 IESC1055I ABOUT TO START SERVER TASK
F2 0112 <CMTI104> PRODCICS BATCH MASTER TERMINAL PROGRAM ENABLED BY

PLTPI

Post by Michael Rosinger
F2 0112 DFHSI8434I PRODCICS Control returned from PLT programs during the
third stage of initialization.
F2 0112 DFHSI1517 PRODCICS Control is being given to CICS.
F2 0112 DFHFC0208I PRODCICS
LSR pool 1 is being built dynamically by CICS because the

following

Post by Michael Rosinger
are not defined: 'CI SIZE' 'STRINGS' 'MAXKEYLENGTH' .

A delay

Post by Michael Rosinger
is possible.
I TRANS(CMIM)
STATUS: RESULTS - OVERTYPE TO MODIFY
Tra(CMIM) Pri( 001 ) Pro(CMIM001 ) Tcl( DFHTCL00 ) Dis
Prf(DFHCICST) Uda Bel
I PROG(CMIM*)
STATUS: RESULTS - OVERTYPE TO MODIFY
Prog(CMIM* ) NOT FOUND

Post by Michael Rosinger
Is there a way around this? Is there another way to purge that

resource?<

Post by Michael Rosinger

Post by R***@aol.com
Been there, tried that and have NOT been able to find a way to DISCARD

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Computer Credit, Inc.
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Winston-Salem, NC 27101
voice : 336-761-1524
fax : 336-761-8852
email : mrosinger at cciws dot com

R***@aol.com

2004-05-13 19:52:09 UTC

Michael,

Please do the following in the CICS in question:

EXP G(*) TRANS(CM*)

You should ONLY get the following:

NAME TYPE GROUP
CMSG TRANSACTION DFHCOMP1
CMTS TRANSACTION DFHCOMP1
CMPX TRANSACTION DFHISC
CMSG TRANSACTION DFHMSWIT
CMTS TRANSACTION DFHSPI

Bob Botsis
Kroger Company
513.745.5487
***@aol.com
(I read and I remember,
I do and I understand)

R***@aol.com

2004-05-13 20:29:13 UTC

Chuck,

<<Did you do a START=COLD or START=INITIAL?>>

46 START=INITIAL
W1-0046 DFHPA1915 CICSTEST INVALID DATA HAS BEEN DETECTED FOR SIT OVERRIDE
START= . RESPECIFY THE OVERRIDE.

Although START=(COLD,ALL), which is valid, may yield different results.

Frankly me thinks Dave hit the head on the nail (ie. hard coded PCT entries).

Bob Botsis
Kroger Company
513.745.5487
***@aol.com
(I read and I remember,
I do and I understand)

i***@dapsco.com

2004-05-13 20:33:02 UTC

Post by R***@aol.com
Frankly me thinks Dave hit the head on the nail
(ie. hard coded PCT entries).

Failing that, delete and define the resource and restart datasets.

Sincerely,

Dave Clark

DAPSCO Information Systems
3110 Kettering Boulevard
Dayton, Ohio 45439
(937) 294-5331

Michael Rosinger

2004-05-14 11:03:50 UTC

Which datasets exactly are you speaking of?

Post by i***@dapsco.com

Post by R***@aol.com
Frankly me thinks Dave hit the head on the nail
(ie. hard coded PCT entries).

Failing that, delete and define the resource and restart datasets.
Sincerely,
Dave Clark
DAPSCO Information Systems
3110 Kettering Boulevard
Dayton, Ohio 45439
(937) 294-5331

--
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Systems Programmer/DBA
Computer Credit, Inc.
640 W. 4th Street
Winston-Salem, NC 27101
voice : 336-761-1524
fax : 336-761-8852
email : mrosinger at cciws dot com

i***@dapsco.com

2004-05-14 14:30:16 UTC

Post by Michael Rosinger
Which datasets exactly are you speaking of?

Sorry, I sometimes confuse the DFHRSD as the "resource" (RS) dataset
(D). Primarily, from a CICS 2.3 viewpoint, I was speaking of the DFHRSD
(restart) dataset. However, I feel the DFHGCD and DFHLCD could be thought
of as "resource" datasets -- though, obviously, I am not as familiar with
these.

Yes, START=INITIAL *should* prevent having to delete/define (initialize)
these datasets. However, while waiting on IBM to "fix" START=INITIAL, you
can delete/define these datasets to prove that this is the actual problem
(rather than there being a PCT or CREATE TRANS that is biting you).

Sincerely,

Dave Clark

DAPSCO Information Systems
3110 Kettering Boulevard
Dayton, Ohio 45439
(937) 294-5331

R***@aol.com

2004-05-14 12:27:19 UTC

Michael,

Dave asked <<Does CICS/TS still have PCT's?>>

If it isn't in your CSD file, which you've proven, then it HAS to be there.
Look and see what value you have for PCT=, and locate the either the source or
the .PHASE. It's GOT to be in there.

There's only one other way CMIM can get there and thats with EXEC CICS CREATE
TRANSACTION('CMIM') yada-yada-yada, which Garry mentioned, which could be in
one of your OWN programs. Such an entry, when executed, would show up in your
message log.

Bob Botsis
Kroger Company
513.745.5487
***@aol.com
(I read and I remember,
I do and I understand)

Ron Ashley

2004-05-14 12:44:39 UTC

Also look on your exec line of DFHSIP and see what is being loaded there. I
had that one time that this overrides DFHSIT. Also be sure what DFHSIT you
are using. Also previous deletes for these files should possibly work. Also
be sure you are using the right DFHCSD in your JCL and standard labels.

Ronald Ashley

256-535-1269

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Subject: Re: How to get rid of transaction IDs in CICS/TS that begin with
"C"?

Michael,

Dave asked <<Does CICS/TS still have PCT's?>>

If it isn't in your CSD file, which you've proven, then it HAS to be
there. Look and see what value you have for PCT=, and locate the either the
source or the .PHASE. It's GOT to be in there.

There's only one other way CMIM can get there and thats with EXEC CICS
CREATE TRANSACTION('CMIM') yada-yada-yada, which Garry mentioned, which
could be in one of your OWN programs. Such an entry, when executed, would
show up in your message log.

Bob Botsis
Kroger Company
513.745.5487
***@aol.com
(I read and I remember,
I do and I understand)

R***@aol.com

2004-05-14 12:42:51 UTC

Dick,

<<You need to delete define DFHRSD,DFHGCD and DFHLCD to do a cold start of
CICS/TS ....>>

If the doing the above fixes Michaels problem then I'd say an APAR needs to
be written. I don't think the CICS/TS designers meant for us to
DELETE/DEFINE/INIT (the DFHGCD has to be initialized), when a transaction id is deleted, even
IF it starts with C.

Bob Botsis
Kroger Company
513.745.5487
***@aol.com
(I read and I remember,
I do and I understand)

Ed Martin

2004-05-14 15:11:25 UTC

Hello Mike,

I believe that you are going to have to 'force' a cold start.
Shutdown CICS normally, Delete/define the RSD (DFHRSD) for that CICS. I
always format my journals (DFHJxxx) too. And since this is a CICS/TS
system you should format the Local and Global Catalog datasets. Make sure
that these are not being used by any other CICS/TS system.

The next time you start up you should see the cold start indication.
And If you still have
CMIM then something else is installing that transaction. And It should be
in the logs at that point.

I believe that the jobs should be in VSAMINIT.Z in Ijsysrs.syslib.

Edward M. Martin
Dowling Consulting Group
1295 Corporate Drive
Hudson, Ohio 44236
330-656-1136
330-650-0172 (fax)

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From: Michael Rosinger [mailto:***@cciws.com]
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 7:09 AM
To: VSE Discussion List
Subject: Re: How to get rid of transaction IDs in CICS/TS that begin
with "C"?

Dave, Bob, et-al,

Thank you for all the great responses. I am trying to respond to all of
the great ideas you've posted here in 1 response.

1) Here is the result from CEDA command:

EXP G(*) TRANS(CM*)
ENTER COMMANDS
NAME TYPE GROUP DATE
TIME
CMSG TRANSACTION DFHCOMP1 03.316
14.51.45
CMTS TRANSACTION DFHCOMP1 03.316
14.51.48
CMPX TRANSACTION DFHISC 03.316
14.48.22
CMSG TRANSACTION DFHMSWIT 03.316
14.48.32
CMTS TRANSACTION DFHSPI 03.316
14.48.58

2) I checked the SYSLST output from the CICS/TS in question. There is no
reference to the transaction "CMIM".

3) All the other changes I made to RDO via CEDA have taken affect. I
just can't seem to get rid of this CMIM transaction.

I TRANS(CMIM)
STATUS: RESULTS - OVERTYPE TO MODIFY
Tra(CMIM) Pri( 001 ) Pro(CMIM001 ) Tcl( DFHTCL00 ) Dis
Prf(DFHCICST) Uda Bel

4) Here is my PLT. There is no reference to anything from ConnectMailbox
- just a MacKinney program. I verified that there is only 1 instance of
the copybook IESZPLTI and it is the IBM-supplied one in IJSYSRS.SYSLIB:

// EXEC ASSEMBLY,SIZE=512K
TITLE 'DFHPLTPI'
DFHPLT TYPE=INITIAL,SUFFIX=PI
SPACE 3
*---------------------------------------------------------------------*
* *
* VSE/ESA ENTRIES FOR PLTPI FOLLOW HERE *
* *
*---------------------------------------------------------------------*
COPY IESZPLTI COPY VSE/ESA INCL. VSE/ICCF ENTRIES
*---------------------------------------------------------------------*
* LOCAL ENTRIES SHOULD BE MADE AFTER THIS POINT *
*---------------------------------------------------------------------*
DFHPLT TYPE=ENTRY,PROGRAM=MTPPPLT
*********************************************************************
SPACE 3
DFHPLT TYPE=FINAL
END
/*
// EXEC LNKEDT

5) UCTRAN on the terminal session is not a factor.

Post by i***@dapsco.com

Post by Michael Rosinger
I DID perform a cold start. The transaction IDs still show
up in CEMT. I've disabled them - but they are still there.
They do NOT show up in CEDA anywhere.

You used this in CEDA? EX G(*) TRAN(CMIM)
Does CICS/TS still have PCT's?
Delete and define your resource dataset before COLD start?
Sincerely,
Dave Clark
DAPSCO Information Systems
3110 Kettering Boulevard
Dayton, Ohio 45439
(937) 294-5331

--
Michael Rosinger
Systems Programmer/DBA
Computer Credit, Inc.
640 W. 4th Street
Winston-Salem, NC 27101
voice : 336-761-1524
fax : 336-761-8852
email : mrosinger at cciws dot com

R***@aol.com

2004-05-14 15:06:26 UTC

Michael,

<<Is everyone that suggested rebuilding the 3 datasets *certain* that it
is necessary to delete/define the RSD as well?>>

I'm not. That's because whenever I do the GCD or LCD I "ALWAYS" do the RSD
too.

If you do do the GCD you "MUST" do the LCD. If you do do the LCD you "MUST"
do the GCD.

If you do NOT do the RSD and it works let us know, although it's total BS to
have to do it at all.

Bob Botsis
Kroger Company
513.745.5487
***@aol.com
(I read and I remember,
I do and I understand)

Michael Rosinger

2004-05-14 17:24:07 UTC

An update..... I set up a job from skeleton SKCICCLD in library 59 to
reconstruct the GCD and LCD and then force a cold start. I shut down the
CICS, ran the job and then restarted. The infamous CMIM transaction is now
nowhere to be found!!

From your comments, it sounds like I should NOT have had to do that to get
the system to discard the transaction after I purged it from RDO and
cold-started -- even though it started with a "C". I am going to open a PMR
with support on this matter.

Thanks to all who chimed in. A real learning experience!

Post by Michael Rosinger
List,
I am on CICS/TS 1.1.1 running on VSE/ESA 2.6.2. I am uninstalling a
product called "ConnectMailbox" from Sterling. We replaced it with a
similar product that runs on AIX.
I have removed the GROUP from my INSTALL LIST in CEDA and also DELETED
it. The problem I am encountering is that the transactions that they
supplied for their CICS interface begin with the letter "C". CEMT won't
allow me to DISCARD transactions that begin with "C".
Is there a way around this? Is there another way to purge that resource?
--
Michael Rosinger
Systems Programmer/DBA
Computer Credit, Inc.
640 W. 4th Street
Winston-Salem, NC 27101
voice : 336-761-1524
fax : 336-761-8852
email : mrosinger at cciws dot com

--
Michael Rosinger
Systems Programmer/DBA
Computer Credit, Inc.
640 W. 4th Street
Winston-Salem, NC 27101
voice : 336-761-1524
fax : 336-761-8852
email : mrosinger at cciws dot com

Michael Rosinger

2004-05-19 11:24:43 UTC