ICKDSF problem

[turner, mark]

Good morning listers.

I'm encountering problems when I attempt to reinitialize one of my 3390
mod 3 volumes. Here is the output from the init job:

ICKDSF - VSE DEVICE SUPPORT FACILITIES 17.0 TIME:
08:27:3


INIT SYSNAME(SYS010) NOVERIFY VOLID(BADVOL) PURGE -

VSEVTOC(0,01,15) VALIDATE DATA

ICK00700I DEVICE INFORMATION FOR 0A4E IS CURRENTLY AS FOLLOWS:

PHYSICAL DEVICE = 3390

STORAGE CONTROLLER = 3990

STORAGE CONTROL DESCRIPTOR = E9

DEVICE DESCRIPTOR = 0A

ADDITIONAL DEVICE INFORMATION = 08001500

TRKS/CYL = 15, # PRIMARY CYLS = 3339

ICK31777I UNRECOVERABLE I/O ERROR READING THE VTOC

ICK30003I FUNCTION TERMINATED. CONDITION CODE IS 12

08:27:32 07/31/08



ICK00002I ICKDSF PROCESSING COMPLETE. MAXIMUM CONDITION CODE WAS 12


The analyze runs file with no errors.

ICKDSF - VSE DEVICE SUPPORT FACILITIES 17.0

ANALYZE SYSNAME(SYS010) SCAN SPEED
ICK00700I DEVICE INFORMATION FOR 0A4E IS CURRENTLY AS FOLLOWS:
PHYSICAL DEVICE = 3390
STORAGE CONTROLLER = 3990
STORAGE CONTROL DESCRIPTOR = E9
DEVICE DESCRIPTOR = 0A
ADDITIONAL DEVICE INFORMATION = 08001500
TRKS/CYL = 15, # PRIMARY CYLS = 3339
ICK01400I 0A4E ANALYZE STARTED
ICK01409I DRIVE TEST STARTED
ICK01407I 0A4E NO DRIVE PROBLEMS FOUND
ICK01408I 0A4E DATA VERIFICATION TEST STARTED
ICK01405I 0A4E ALL DATA 'MACHINE READABLE' WITHOUT ERRORS
ICK01406I 0A4E ANALYZE ENDED
ICK00001I FUNCTION COMPLETED, HIGHEST CONDITION CODE WAS 0
08:20:46 07/31/08
ICKDSF - VSE DEVICE SUPPORT FACILITIES 17.0
ICK00002I ICKDSF PROCESSING COMPLETE. MAXIMUM CONDITION CODE WAS 0

Does anyone have a suggestion on how I can initialize this volume? Here
is my initialize job.

* $$ JOB JNM=INITA4E,CLASS=P,DISP=D
* $$ LST CLASS=C
// JOB INITA4E - A4E DISK PACK - VOL METRES
// ASSGN SYS010,A4E
// EXEC ICKDSF,SIZE=AUTO
INIT SYSNAME(SYS010) NOVERIFY VOLID(BADVOL) PURGE -
VSEVTOC(0,01,15) VALIDATE DATA
/*
/&
* $$ EOJ

Mark E. Turner
Systems Programmer
Harford County Government
45 S. Main St.
Bel Air, MD 21014

Work: [phone] ext. 1229
Cell: [phone]

mailto:***@harfordcountymd.gov

http://www.harfordcountymd.gov

[Dick Oden]

Mark,

You may want to change (0,01,15) to (0,1,14) that would make the VTOC on
the first cylinder.

Dick Oden
Davis Vision

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Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 8:34 AM
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Subject: ICKDSF problem

Good morning listers.

I'm encountering problems when I attempt to reinitialize one of my 3390
mod 3 volumes. Here is the output from the init job:

ICKDSF - VSE DEVICE SUPPORT FACILITIES 17.0 TIME:
08:27:3


INIT SYSNAME(SYS010) NOVERIFY VOLID(BADVOL) PURGE -

VSEVTOC(0,01,15) VALIDATE DATA

ICK00700I DEVICE INFORMATION FOR 0A4E IS CURRENTLY AS FOLLOWS:

PHYSICAL DEVICE = 3390

STORAGE CONTROLLER = 3990

STORAGE CONTROL DESCRIPTOR = E9

DEVICE DESCRIPTOR = 0A

ADDITIONAL DEVICE INFORMATION = 08001500

TRKS/CYL = 15, # PRIMARY CYLS = 3339

ICK31777I UNRECOVERABLE I/O ERROR READING THE VTOC

ICK30003I FUNCTION TERMINATED. CONDITION CODE IS 12

08:27:32 07/31/08



ICK00002I ICKDSF PROCESSING COMPLETE. MAXIMUM CONDITION CODE WAS 12


The analyze runs file with no errors.

ICKDSF - VSE DEVICE SUPPORT FACILITIES 17.0

ANALYZE SYSNAME(SYS010) SCAN SPEED
ICK00700I DEVICE INFORMATION FOR 0A4E IS CURRENTLY AS FOLLOWS:
PHYSICAL DEVICE = 3390
STORAGE CONTROLLER = 3990
STORAGE CONTROL DESCRIPTOR = E9
DEVICE DESCRIPTOR = 0A
ADDITIONAL DEVICE INFORMATION = 08001500
TRKS/CYL = 15, # PRIMARY CYLS = 3339
ICK01400I 0A4E ANALYZE STARTED
ICK01409I DRIVE TEST STARTED
ICK01407I 0A4E NO DRIVE PROBLEMS FOUND
ICK01408I 0A4E DATA VERIFICATION TEST STARTED
ICK01405I 0A4E ALL DATA 'MACHINE READABLE' WITHOUT ERRORS
ICK01406I 0A4E ANALYZE ENDED
ICK00001I FUNCTION COMPLETED, HIGHEST CONDITION CODE WAS 0
08:20:46 07/31/08
ICKDSF - VSE DEVICE SUPPORT FACILITIES 17.0
ICK00002I ICKDSF PROCESSING COMPLETE. MAXIMUM CONDITION CODE WAS 0

Does anyone have a suggestion on how I can initialize this volume? Here
is my initialize job.

* $$ JOB JNM=INITA4E,CLASS=P,DISP=D
* $$ LST CLASS=C
// JOB INITA4E - A4E DISK PACK - VOL METRES
// ASSGN SYS010,A4E
// EXEC ICKDSF,SIZE=AUTO
INIT SYSNAME(SYS010) NOVERIFY VOLID(BADVOL) PURGE -
VSEVTOC(0,01,15) VALIDATE DATA
/*
/&
* $$ EOJ

Mark E. Turner
Systems Programmer
Harford County Government
45 S. Main St.
Bel Air, MD 21014

Work: [phone] ext. 1229
Cell: [phone]

mailto:***@harfordcountymd.gov

http://www.harfordcountymd.gov



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[Gustavo Torres]

Mark,

Post by turner, mark
ICK31777I UNRECOVERABLE I/O ERROR READING THE VTOC
ICK30003I FUNCTION TERMINATED. CONDITION CODE IS 12

You could try without VALIDATE parm, if this don't work, try with
INSTALL command and then with INIT again.

Gustavo Torres

[turner, mark]

ICKDSF - VSE DEVICE SUPPORT FACILITIES 17.0 TIME

INIT SYSNAME(SYS010) NOVERIFY VOLID(BADVOL) PURGE -
VSEVTOC(0,01,15) DATA
ICK30225I REQUIRED (SUB)PARAMETER OF 'VALIDATE' IS MISSING
ICK30202I ABOVE TEXT BYPASSED UNTIL NEXT COMMAND. CONDITION CODE IS 12

ICK00002I ICKDSF PROCESSING COMPLETE. MAXIMUM CONDITION CODE WAS 12
* * * E n d o f D a t a * * *

Can someone please help me with the syntax of the install parameter? My
job doesn't like validate being omitted. :-(

Mark E. Turner
Systems Programmer
Harford County Government
45 S. Main St.
Bel Air, MD 21014

Work: [phone] ext. 1229
Cell: [phone]

mailto:***@harfordcountymd.gov

http://www.harfordcountymd.gov

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-vse-***@Lehigh.EDU [mailto:owner-vse-***@Lehigh.EDU] On Behalf
Of Gustavo Torres
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 8:53 AM
To: VSE Discussion List
Subject: Re: ICKDSF problem

Mark,

ICK31777I UNRECOVERABLE I/O ERROR READING THE VTOC ICK30003I FUNCTION
TERMINATED. CONDITION CODE IS 12

You could try without VALIDATE parm, if this don't work, try with
INSTALL command and then with INIT again.

Gustavo Torres

[Robert Hedgpeth]

Mark:
As Dick pointed out earlier, you need to change
VSEVTOC(0,01,15)
to
VSEVTOC(0,01,14)

VTOC has to END on a cylinder boundary and starting at track 1 for 15
tracks bumps you into the next cylinder.



Robert W. Hedgpeth
Technical Support Representative
illustro Systems, Intl., LLC
www.illustro.com

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[Dick Oden]

Robert,

I thought the same thing but when I tried it the way Mark is doing it it
does work, I personally wouldn't do that but it will work.

Dick Oden
Davis Vision

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Subject: RE: ICKDSF problem


Mark:
As Dick pointed out earlier, you need to change
VSEVTOC(0,01,15)
to
VSEVTOC(0,01,14)

VTOC has to END on a cylinder boundary and starting at track 1 for 15
tracks bumps you into the next cylinder.



Robert W. Hedgpeth
Technical Support Representative
illustro Systems, Intl., LLC
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[Robert Hedgpeth]

Interesting .. I had been lead to believe that the vtoc had to end on a
cyl. boundary.

My apologies to everyone for my misstatement.

Robert W. Hedgpeth
Technical Support Representative
illustro Systems, Intl., LLC
www.illustro.com

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Post by Dick Oden
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Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 8:32 AM
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Subject: RE: ICKDSF problem
Robert,
I thought the same thing but when I tried it the way Mark is
doing it it does work, I personally wouldn't do that but it will work.
Dick Oden
Davis Vision
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Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:12 AM
To: VSE Discussion List
Subject: RE: ICKDSF problem
As Dick pointed out earlier, you need to change
VSEVTOC(0,01,15)
to
VSEVTOC(0,01,14)
VTOC has to END on a cylinder boundary and starting at track
1 for 15 tracks bumps you into the next cylinder.
Robert W. Hedgpeth
Technical Support Representative
illustro Systems, Intl., LLC
www.illustro.com
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[Schoenemann, Holger]

I never had problems with:

INIT SYSNAME(SYS010) NOVFY VOLID(HAHA21) VSEVTOC(0,1,14) PURGE

I have no VALIDATE DATA




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Von: owner-vse-***@Lehigh.EDU [mailto:owner-vse-***@Lehigh.EDU] Im Auftrag von turner, mark
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 31. Juli 2008 14:34
An: VSE Discussion List
Betreff: ICKDSF problem

Good morning listers.

I'm encountering problems when I attempt to reinitialize one of my 3390
mod 3 volumes. Here is the output from the init job:

ICKDSF - VSE DEVICE SUPPORT FACILITIES 17.0 TIME:
08:27:3


INIT SYSNAME(SYS010) NOVERIFY VOLID(BADVOL) PURGE -

VSEVTOC(0,01,15) VALIDATE DATA

ICK00700I DEVICE INFORMATION FOR 0A4E IS CURRENTLY AS FOLLOWS:

PHYSICAL DEVICE = 3390

STORAGE CONTROLLER = 3990

STORAGE CONTROL DESCRIPTOR = E9

DEVICE DESCRIPTOR = 0A

ADDITIONAL DEVICE INFORMATION = 08001500

TRKS/CYL = 15, # PRIMARY CYLS = 3339

ICK31777I UNRECOVERABLE I/O ERROR READING THE VTOC

ICK30003I FUNCTION TERMINATED. CONDITION CODE IS 12

08:27:32 07/31/08



ICK00002I ICKDSF PROCESSING COMPLETE. MAXIMUM CONDITION CODE WAS 12


The analyze runs file with no errors.

ICKDSF - VSE DEVICE SUPPORT FACILITIES 17.0

ANALYZE SYSNAME(SYS010) SCAN SPEED
ICK00700I DEVICE INFORMATION FOR 0A4E IS CURRENTLY AS FOLLOWS:
PHYSICAL DEVICE = 3390
STORAGE CONTROLLER = 3990
STORAGE CONTROL DESCRIPTOR = E9
DEVICE DESCRIPTOR = 0A
ADDITIONAL DEVICE INFORMATION = 08001500
TRKS/CYL = 15, # PRIMARY CYLS = 3339
ICK01400I 0A4E ANALYZE STARTED
ICK01409I DRIVE TEST STARTED
ICK01407I 0A4E NO DRIVE PROBLEMS FOUND
ICK01408I 0A4E DATA VERIFICATION TEST STARTED
ICK01405I 0A4E ALL DATA 'MACHINE READABLE' WITHOUT ERRORS
ICK01406I 0A4E ANALYZE ENDED
ICK00001I FUNCTION COMPLETED, HIGHEST CONDITION CODE WAS 0
08:20:46 07/31/08
ICKDSF - VSE DEVICE SUPPORT FACILITIES 17.0
ICK00002I ICKDSF PROCESSING COMPLETE. MAXIMUM CONDITION CODE WAS 0

Does anyone have a suggestion on how I can initialize this volume? Here
is my initialize job.

* $$ JOB JNM=INITA4E,CLASS=P,DISP=D
* $$ LST CLASS=C
// JOB INITA4E - A4E DISK PACK - VOL METRES
// ASSGN SYS010,A4E
// EXEC ICKDSF,SIZE=AUTO
INIT SYSNAME(SYS010) NOVERIFY VOLID(BADVOL) PURGE -
VSEVTOC(0,01,15) VALIDATE DATA
/*
/&
* $$ EOJ

Mark E. Turner
Systems Programmer
Harford County Government
45 S. Main St.
Bel Air, MD 21014

Work: [phone] ext. 1229
Cell: [phone]

mailto:***@harfordcountymd.gov

http://www.harfordcountymd.gov

[turner, mark]

I still get

ICK31777I UNRECOVERABLE I/O ERROR READING THE VTOC
ICK30003I FUNCTION TERMINATED. CONDITION CODE IS 12


Mark E. Turner
Systems Programmer
Harford County Government
45 S. Main St.
Bel Air, MD 21014

Work: [phone] ext. 1229
Cell: [phone]

mailto:***@harfordcountymd.gov

http://www.harfordcountymd.gov

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-vse-***@Lehigh.EDU [mailto:owner-vse-***@Lehigh.EDU] On Behalf
Of Schoenemann, Holger
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:05 AM
To: VSE Discussion List
Subject: AW: ICKDSF problem

I never had problems with:

INIT SYSNAME(SYS010) NOVFY VOLID(HAHA21) VSEVTOC(0,1,14) PURGE

I have no VALIDATE DATA

[Boltax, Mark]

The issue was that the label processing always read from the first track
of the VTOC until the end of the cylinder whether the VTOC ended there
or not. If I wanted a 1 track VTOC I would use:
DVTOC(000,13,1).

Mark D. Boltax
Standard Motor Products, Inc.



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-vse-***@Lehigh.EDU [mailto:owner-vse-***@Lehigh.EDU] On Behalf
Of Robert Hedgpeth
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:34 AM
To: VSE Discussion List
Subject: RE: ICKDSF problem


Interesting .. I had been lead to believe that the vtoc had to end on a
cyl. boundary.

My apologies to everyone for my misstatement.

Robert W. Hedgpeth
Technical Support Representative
illustro Systems, Intl., LLC
www.illustro.com

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Post by Dick Oden
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Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 8:32 AM
To: VSE Discussion List
Subject: RE: ICKDSF problem
Robert,
I thought the same thing but when I tried it the way Mark is
doing it it does work, I personally wouldn't do that but it will work.
Dick Oden
Davis Vision
-----Original Message-----
On Behalf Of Robert Hedgpeth
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:12 AM
To: VSE Discussion List
Subject: RE: ICKDSF problem
As Dick pointed out earlier, you need to change
VSEVTOC(0,01,15)
to
VSEVTOC(0,01,14)
VTOC has to END on a cylinder boundary and starting at track
1 for 15 tracks bumps you into the next cylinder.
Robert W. Hedgpeth
Technical Support Representative
illustro Systems, Intl., LLC
www.illustro.com
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[Martin T2..]

Mark,

(sorry for picking- I have been picked lately too ;-) )

read from the first track of the VTOC until the end of the cylinder <<

It does do a multi-track search key equal- which can only end on a
cylinder- this is part of the story.

Now comes the new (like in since_20_years_or_so) part:

With the ECKDs you can define extents and it would only be logical that
a multitrack-operation with a previous define extent would come back
with a not found when the defined extent is thru. (haven't been in that
part of the woods lately so - someone correct me, if I am wrong).

And with mapped devices and RAID: what is a cylinder anyway?

[Paul L'Heureux]

Mark,



Just as an experiment could you try running the following JCL?

I want to see if you still get the VTOC error message.











* $$ JOB JNM=DSFINIT,DISP=D,PRI=3,CLASS=

* $$ LST CLASS=Z,DISP=L,DEST=*

// JOB DSFINIT

// LOG

// PAUSE EOB to INIT

// ASSGN SYS002,A4E

// PAUSE

// EXEC ICKDSF,SIZE=ICKDSF

INIT SYSNAME(SYS002) NVFY PURGE -

DOSVTOC(END) VOLID(BADVOL)

/*

/&

// EXEC LISTLOG

$$ EOJ









Thanks,



Paul