Discussion:
Ordering PTFs from IBM ServiceLink
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Horlick, Michael
2007-04-18 14:35:12 UTC
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Greetings,

I just went to the PSP bucket for z/VSE 4.1.0 and decided to order all the fixes there through IBM ServiceLink. It brings me to a screen where I see:
 
Include requisites?
Include superseded PTFs?
Include superseding PTFs?
Include IFREQS?
Include PE fixes?

I have the Yes button selected for requisites but nothing for the others. Do I need any of the others to be selected 'Yes'?

In general, I don't know why anyone would choose superseded PTFs and why someone would not want to order superseding PTFS? Maybe someone can enlighten me on this?

Also, what about IFREQS and PE fixes? What is a IFREQS? I think a PE fix is a fix against a fix, no?

Regards

Mike
i***@winwholesale.com
2007-04-18 14:50:54 UTC
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owner-vse-***@Lehigh.EDU wrote on 04/18/2007 10:36:42 AM:
> What is a IFREQS?

A fix that is only required IF you have some other (specific)
component installed.

> I think a PE fix is a fix against a fix, no?

Depends upon the actual frame of reference. However, I would take
this to mean a fix which has been flagged as PE'd (contains errors).

In some cases, including superseded and PE'd fixes is for information
only -- kind of an audit trail. Of course, I would never included a PE'd
fix unless there was a superseding fix available for it. ;-)

Sincerely,

Dave Clark

WinWholesale Group Services
3110 Kettering Boulevard
Dayton, Ohio 45439 USA
(937) 294-5331
Eric Schadow
2007-04-18 15:22:27 UTC
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Mike

At 10:36 AM 4/18/2007, you wrote:
>Greetings,
>
>I just went to the PSP bucket for z/VSE 4.1.0 and decided to order all the fixes there through IBM ServiceLink. It brings me to a screen where I see:
>
>Include requisites?
>Include superseded PTFs?
>Include superseding PTFs?
>Include IFREQS?
>Include PE fixes?


I would select them all.

The IFREQS are applied IF a product is installed. This usually shows up with the VSE generation feature... IF you have it installed the PTF will be applied.

PE are PTF in ERROR.... another acronym with an acronym....





Eric Schadow
Mainframe Technical Support
www.davisvision.com




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Horlick, Michael
2007-04-18 15:38:42 UTC
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Actually, I was thinking that except I was wondering if the superseded
ones would result in getting all the base fixes that were in the product
which would be a lot.

I found it a bit confusing that you can ask for "requisites" and
"superseded PTFs". Obviously, you want all the requisites for a fix. Who
cares about its superseded ones?

Thanks

Mike

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From: owner-vse-***@Lehigh.EDU [mailto:owner-vse-***@Lehigh.EDU] On Behalf
Of Eric Schadow
Sent: April 18, 2007 11:22 AM
To: VSE Discussion List
Subject: Re: Ordering PTFs from IBM ServiceLink

Mike

At 10:36 AM 4/18/2007, you wrote:
>Greetings,
>
>I just went to the PSP bucket for z/VSE 4.1.0 and decided to order all
the fixes there through IBM ServiceLink. It brings me to a screen where
I see:
>
>Include requisites?
>Include superseded PTFs?
>Include superseding PTFs?
>Include IFREQS?
>Include PE fixes?


I would select them all.

The IFREQS are applied IF a product is installed. This usually shows up
with the VSE generation feature... IF you have it installed the PTF will
be applied.

PE are PTF in ERROR.... another acronym with an acronym....





Eric Schadow
Mainframe Technical Support
www.davisvision.com




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Horlick, Michael
2007-04-18 18:29:00 UTC
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Greetings,

I tried both ways (with only the requisites and with all selected) and
got the same fixes ordered.

Being a good boy that I am I ordered them all from the PSP bucket for
z/VSE 4.1.0 (PTFs UK22041, UK22056, UD53136 and UK21783) except for 1
that applied to CICS/VSE (we only run CICS/TS).

The first fix cancelled with :

BG 0000 M275I CATALOG OF MEMBERS IN PROGRESS
BG 0000 0P72I READING PAST /& STATEMENT
BG 0000 0S00I JOB UK22041 CANCELED

Then all the "jobs" within started to execute after. Finally after they
cancelled the other fixes went in OK.

I opened a PMR with IBM on this.

Cheerio for now :)

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-vse-***@Lehigh.EDU [mailto:owner-vse-***@Lehigh.EDU] On Behalf
Of Eric Schadow
Sent: April 18, 2007 11:22 AM
To: VSE Discussion List
Subject: Re: Ordering PTFs from IBM ServiceLink

Mike

At 10:36 AM 4/18/2007, you wrote:
>Greetings,
>
>I just went to the PSP bucket for z/VSE 4.1.0 and decided to order all
the fixes there through IBM ServiceLink. It brings me to a screen where
I see:
>
>Include requisites?
>Include superseded PTFs?
>Include superseding PTFs?
>Include IFREQS?
>Include PE fixes?


I would select them all.

The IFREQS are applied IF a product is installed. This usually shows up
with the VSE generation feature... IF you have it installed the PTF will
be applied.

PE are PTF in ERROR.... another acronym with an acronym....





Eric Schadow
Mainframe Technical Support
www.davisvision.com




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r***@aol.com
2007-04-18 18:46:08 UTC
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You didn't, by any chance, upload the fixes into the RDR queue did you?

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From: ***@cgi.com
To: vse-***@Lehigh.EDU
Sent: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 2:30 PM
Subject: RE: Ordering PTFs from IBM ServiceLink

Greetings,

I tried both ways (with only the requisites and with all selected) and
got the same fixes ordered.

Being a good boy that I am I ordered them all from the PSP bucket for
z/VSE 4.1.0 (PTFs UK22041, UK22056, UD53136 and UK21783) except for 1
that applied to CICS/VSE (we only run CICS/TS).

The first fix cancelled with :

BG 0000 M275I CATALOG OF MEMBERS IN PROGRESS
BG 0000 0P72I READING PAST /& STATEMENT
BG 0000 0S00I JOB UK22041 CANCELED

Then all the "jobs" within started to execute after. Finally after they
cancelled the other fixes went in OK.

I opened a PMR with IBM on this.

Cheerio for now :)

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-vse-***@Lehigh.EDU [mailto:owner-vse-***@Lehigh.EDU] On Behalf
Of Eric Schadow
Sent: April 18, 2007 11:22 AM
To: VSE Discussion List
Subject: Re: Ordering PTFs from IBM ServiceLink

Mike

At 10:36 AM 4/18/2007, you wrote:
>Greetings,
>
>I just went to the PSP bucket for z/VSE 4.1.0 and decided to order all
the fixes there through IBM ServiceLink. It brings me to a screen where
I see:
>
>Include requisites?
>Include superseded PTFs?
>Include superseding PTFs?
>Include IFREQS?
>Include PE fixes?


I would select them all.

The IFREQS are applied IF a product is installed. This usually shows up
with the VSE generation feature... IF you have it installed the PTF will
be applied.

PE are PTF in ERROR.... another acronym with an acronym....





Eric Schadow
Mainframe Technical Support
www.davisvision.com




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Horlick, Michael
2007-04-18 19:13:40 UTC
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I ftped the binary fix file from ptf.boulder.ibm.com onto my PC, then
ftped it onto the mainframe as a CMS (binary) file. It displayed as a
normal job, then I spooled my punch to my VSE machine and did a CMS
PUNCH for the file.

All the fixes went in OK except for this one. I went back to ServiceLink
and re-ordered just this fix and put it on CMS. It matches with the
first one so I don't think it is a transmission problem.

Regards,

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-vse-***@Lehigh.EDU [mailto:owner-vse-***@Lehigh.EDU] On Behalf
Of ***@aol.com
Sent: April 18, 2007 2:45 PM
To: VSE Discussion List
Subject: Re: Ordering PTFs from IBM ServiceLink

You didn't, by any chance, upload the fixes into the RDR queue did you?

-----Original Message-----
From: ***@cgi.com
To: vse-***@Lehigh.EDU
Sent: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 2:30 PM
Subject: RE: Ordering PTFs from IBM ServiceLink

Greetings,

I tried both ways (with only the requisites and with all selected) and
got the same fixes ordered.

Being a good boy that I am I ordered them all from the PSP bucket for
z/VSE 4.1.0 (PTFs UK22041, UK22056, UD53136 and UK21783) except for 1
that applied to CICS/VSE (we only run CICS/TS).

The first fix cancelled with :

BG 0000 M275I CATALOG OF MEMBERS IN PROGRESS
BG 0000 0P72I READING PAST /& STATEMENT
BG 0000 0S00I JOB UK22041 CANCELED

Then all the "jobs" within started to execute after. Finally after they
cancelled the other fixes went in OK.

I opened a PMR with IBM on this.

Cheerio for now :)

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-vse-***@Lehigh.EDU [mailto:owner-vse-***@Lehigh.EDU] On Behalf
Of Eric Schadow
Sent: April 18, 2007 11:22 AM
To: VSE Discussion List
Subject: Re: Ordering PTFs from IBM ServiceLink

Mike

At 10:36 AM 4/18/2007, you wrote:
>Greetings,
>
>I just went to the PSP bucket for z/VSE 4.1.0 and decided to order all
the fixes there through IBM ServiceLink. It brings me to a screen where
I see:
>
>Include requisites?
>Include superseded PTFs?
>Include superseding PTFs?
>Include IFREQS?
>Include PE fixes?


I would select them all.

The IFREQS are applied IF a product is installed. This usually shows up
with the VSE generation feature... IF you have it installed the PTF will
be applied.

PE are PTF in ERROR.... another acronym with an acronym....





Eric Schadow
Mainframe Technical Support
www.davisvision.com




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Horlick, Michael
2007-04-18 19:19:30 UTC
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I just a reply from IBM that it can't be installed as a SYSIN job but
through IUI.

Regards

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-vse-***@Lehigh.EDU [mailto:owner-vse-***@Lehigh.EDU] On Behalf
Of Horlick, Michael
Sent: April 18, 2007 3:15 PM
To: VSE Discussion List
Subject: RE: Ordering PTFs from IBM ServiceLink

I ftped the binary fix file from ptf.boulder.ibm.com onto my PC, then
ftped it onto the mainframe as a CMS (binary) file. It displayed as a
normal job, then I spooled my punch to my VSE machine and did a CMS
PUNCH for the file.

All the fixes went in OK except for this one. I went back to ServiceLink
and re-ordered just this fix and put it on CMS. It matches with the
first one so I don't think it is a transmission problem.

Regards,

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-vse-***@Lehigh.EDU [mailto:owner-vse-***@Lehigh.EDU] On Behalf
Of ***@aol.com
Sent: April 18, 2007 2:45 PM
To: VSE Discussion List
Subject: Re: Ordering PTFs from IBM ServiceLink

You didn't, by any chance, upload the fixes into the RDR queue did you?

-----Original Message-----
From: ***@cgi.com
To: vse-***@Lehigh.EDU
Sent: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 2:30 PM
Subject: RE: Ordering PTFs from IBM ServiceLink

Greetings,

I tried both ways (with only the requisites and with all selected) and
got the same fixes ordered.

Being a good boy that I am I ordered them all from the PSP bucket for
z/VSE 4.1.0 (PTFs UK22041, UK22056, UD53136 and UK21783) except for 1
that applied to CICS/VSE (we only run CICS/TS).

The first fix cancelled with :

BG 0000 M275I CATALOG OF MEMBERS IN PROGRESS
BG 0000 0P72I READING PAST /& STATEMENT
BG 0000 0S00I JOB UK22041 CANCELED

Then all the "jobs" within started to execute after. Finally after they
cancelled the other fixes went in OK.

I opened a PMR with IBM on this.

Cheerio for now :)

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-vse-***@Lehigh.EDU [mailto:owner-vse-***@Lehigh.EDU] On Behalf
Of Eric Schadow
Sent: April 18, 2007 11:22 AM
To: VSE Discussion List
Subject: Re: Ordering PTFs from IBM ServiceLink

Mike

At 10:36 AM 4/18/2007, you wrote:
>Greetings,
>
>I just went to the PSP bucket for z/VSE 4.1.0 and decided to order all
the fixes there through IBM ServiceLink. It brings me to a screen where
I see:
>
>Include requisites?
>Include superseded PTFs?
>Include superseding PTFs?
>Include IFREQS?
>Include PE fixes?


I would select them all.

The IFREQS are applied IF a product is installed. This usually shows up
with the VSE generation feature... IF you have it installed the PTF will
be applied.

PE are PTF in ERROR.... another acronym with an acronym....





Eric Schadow
Mainframe Technical Support
www.davisvision.com




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Rich Smrcina
2007-04-18 19:24:33 UTC
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Correct, it must be FTPed to the IJSYSPF file and applied from there.

On 4/18/07, Horlick, Michael <***@cgi.com> wrote:
>
> I just a reply from IBM that it can't be installed as a SYSIN job but
> through IUI.
>
> Regards
>
> Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-vse-***@Lehigh.EDU [mailto:owner-vse-***@Lehigh.EDU] On Behalf
> Of Horlick, Michael
> Sent: April 18, 2007 3:15 PM
> To: VSE Discussion List
> Subject: RE: Ordering PTFs from IBM ServiceLink
>
> I ftped the binary fix file from ptf.boulder.ibm.com onto my PC, then
> ftped it onto the mainframe as a CMS (binary) file. It displayed as a
> normal job, then I spooled my punch to my VSE machine and did a CMS
> PUNCH for the file.
>
> All the fixes went in OK except for this one. I went back to ServiceLink
> and re-ordered just this fix and put it on CMS. It matches with the
> first one so I don't think it is a transmission problem.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-vse-***@Lehigh.EDU [mailto:owner-vse-***@Lehigh.EDU] On Behalf
> Of ***@aol.com
> Sent: April 18, 2007 2:45 PM
> To: VSE Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Ordering PTFs from IBM ServiceLink
>
> You didn't, by any chance, upload the fixes into the RDR queue did you?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ***@cgi.com
> To: vse-***@Lehigh.EDU
> Sent: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 2:30 PM
> Subject: RE: Ordering PTFs from IBM ServiceLink
>
> Greetings,
>
> I tried both ways (with only the requisites and with all selected) and
> got the same fixes ordered.
>
> Being a good boy that I am I ordered them all from the PSP bucket for
> z/VSE 4.1.0 (PTFs UK22041, UK22056, UD53136 and UK21783) except for 1
> that applied to CICS/VSE (we only run CICS/TS).
>
> The first fix cancelled with :
>
> BG 0000 M275I CATALOG OF MEMBERS IN PROGRESS
> BG 0000 0P72I READING PAST /& STATEMENT
> BG 0000 0S00I JOB UK22041 CANCELED
>
> Then all the "jobs" within started to execute after. Finally after they
> cancelled the other fixes went in OK.
>
> I opened a PMR with IBM on this.
>
> Cheerio for now :)
>
> Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-vse-***@Lehigh.EDU [mailto:owner-vse-***@Lehigh.EDU] On Behalf
> Of Eric Schadow
> Sent: April 18, 2007 11:22 AM
> To: VSE Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Ordering PTFs from IBM ServiceLink
>
> Mike
>
> At 10:36 AM 4/18/2007, you wrote:
> >Greetings,
> >
> >I just went to the PSP bucket for z/VSE 4.1.0 and decided to order all
> the fixes there through IBM ServiceLink. It brings me to a screen where
> I see:
> >
> >Include requisites?
> >Include superseded PTFs?
> >Include superseding PTFs?
> >Include IFREQS?
> >Include PE fixes?
>
>
> I would select them all.
>
> The IFREQS are applied IF a product is installed. This usually shows up
> with the VSE generation feature... IF you have it installed the PTF will
> be applied.
>
> PE are PTF in ERROR.... another acronym with an acronym....
>
>
>
>
>
> Eric Schadow
> Mainframe Technical Support
> www.davisvision.com
>
>
>
>
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Horlick, Michael
2007-04-18 19:33:12 UTC
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Yeah , I was pointed to :



http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zvse/documentation/edelive
ry.html#eptf



My other fixes went in ok so I'm hoping that they are OK (should I
bother to try to figure out how to undo and redo the right way??)



Will try to do this fix the proper way.



Thanks



Mike





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From: owner-vse-***@Lehigh.EDU [mailto:owner-vse-***@Lehigh.EDU] On Behalf
Of Rich Smrcina
Sent: April 18, 2007 3:24 PM
To: VSE Discussion List
Subject: Re: Ordering PTFs from IBM ServiceLink



Correct, it must be FTPed to the IJSYSPF file and applied from there.

On 4/18/07, Horlick, Michael <***@cgi.com > wrote:

I just a reply from IBM that it can't be installed as a SYSIN job but
through IUI.

Regards

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-vse-***@Lehigh.EDU [mailto:owner-vse-***@Lehigh.EDU ] On Behalf
Of Horlick, Michael
Sent: April 18, 2007 3:15 PM
To: VSE Discussion List
Subject: RE: Ordering PTFs from IBM ServiceLink

I ftped the binary fix file from ptf.boulder.ibm.com onto my PC, then
ftped it onto the mainframe as a CMS (binary) file. It displayed as a
normal job, then I spooled my punch to my VSE machine and did a CMS
PUNCH for the file.

All the fixes went in OK except for this one. I went back to ServiceLink

and re-ordered just this fix and put it on CMS. It matches with the
first one so I don't think it is a transmission problem.

Regards,

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-vse-***@Lehigh.EDU [mailto:owner-vse-***@Lehigh.EDU] On Behalf
Of ***@aol.com
Sent: April 18, 2007 2:45 PM
To: VSE Discussion List
Subject: Re: Ordering PTFs from IBM ServiceLink

You didn't, by any chance, upload the fixes into the RDR queue did you?

-----Original Message-----
From: ***@cgi.com
To: vse-***@Lehigh.EDU
Sent: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 2:30 PM
Subject: RE: Ordering PTFs from IBM ServiceLink

Greetings,

I tried both ways (with only the requisites and with all selected) and
got the same fixes ordered.

Being a good boy that I am I ordered them all from the PSP bucket for
z/VSE 4.1.0 (PTFs UK22041, UK22056, UD53136 and UK21783) except for 1
that applied to CICS/VSE (we only run CICS/TS).

The first fix cancelled with :

BG 0000 M275I CATALOG OF MEMBERS IN PROGRESS
BG 0000 0P72I READING PAST /& STATEMENT
BG 0000 0S00I JOB UK22041 CANCELED

Then all the "jobs" within started to execute after. Finally after they
cancelled the other fixes went in OK.

I opened a PMR with IBM on this.

Cheerio for now :)

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-vse-***@Lehigh.EDU [mailto:owner-vse-***@Lehigh.EDU] On Behalf
Of Eric Schadow
Sent: April 18, 2007 11:22 AM
To: VSE Discussion List
Subject: Re: Ordering PTFs from IBM ServiceLink

Mike

At 10:36 AM 4/18/2007, you wrote:
>Greetings,
>
>I just went to the PSP bucket for z/VSE 4.1.0 and decided to order all
the fixes there through IBM ServiceLink. It brings me to a screen where
I see:
>
>Include requisites?
>Include superseded PTFs?
>Include superseding PTFs?
>Include IFREQS?
>Include PE fixes?


I would select them all.

The IFREQS are applied IF a product is installed. This usually shows up
with the VSE generation feature... IF you have it installed the PTF will
be applied.

PE are PTF in ERROR.... another acronym with an acronym....





Eric Schadow
Mainframe Technical Support
www.davisvision.com




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Mike Moore
2007-04-18 19:27:32 UTC
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Yep, I stopped using the RDR Q a long time ago when about half of the
PTFs were dying. I use the IUI for all PTFs now. It is a little more
trouble but works every time.

Mike Moore
IT Manager
Alabama Judicial Datacenter
300 Dexter Ave
Montgomery, AL 36104
334-954-5025
Edward M. Martin
2007-04-18 19:38:53 UTC
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Hello Mike,

As everyone has said, you need to send it to a FILE (IJSYSPF).

I tried and tried to use CMS too. Just does not work.
MSHP has to apply the co and pre requisites at the same time.

Plus it does run much faster.

Ed Martin
Aultman Health Foundation
330-588-4723
***@aultman.com
ext. 40441
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-vse-***@Lehigh.EDU [mailto:owner-vse-***@Lehigh.EDU] On Behalf
Of
> Horlick, Michael
> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 3:15 PM
> To: VSE Discussion List
> Subject: RE: Ordering PTFs from IBM ServiceLink
>
> I ftped the binary fix file from ptf.boulder.ibm.com onto my PC, then
> ftped it onto the mainframe as a CMS (binary) file. It displayed as a
> normal job, then I spooled my punch to my VSE machine and did a CMS
> PUNCH for the file.
>
> All the fixes went in OK except for this one. I went back to
ServiceLink
> and re-ordered just this fix and put it on CMS. It matches with the
> first one so I don't think it is a transmission problem.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
Mohammed Imam
2007-04-18 20:10:50 UTC
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It is much simpler using VTAPE, if you're using it.
All, in addition to the normal process, you need to do is change the
extension of downloaded file from .bin to .ptf and VTAPE START.

Mohammed A. Imam
County of Cumberland, NC
(910) 678-7680.

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-vse-***@Lehigh.EDU [mailto:owner-vse-***@Lehigh.EDU] On Behalf
Of Edward M. Martin
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 3:38 PM
To: VSE Discussion List
Subject: RE: Ordering PTFs from IBM ServiceLink

Hello Mike,

As everyone has said, you need to send it to a FILE (IJSYSPF).

I tried and tried to use CMS too. Just does not work.
MSHP has to apply the co and pre requisites at the same time.

Plus it does run much faster.

Ed Martin
Aultman Health Foundation
330-588-4723
***@aultman.com
ext. 40441
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-vse-***@Lehigh.EDU [mailto:owner-vse-***@Lehigh.EDU] On Behalf
Of
> Horlick, Michael
> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 3:15 PM
> To: VSE Discussion List
> Subject: RE: Ordering PTFs from IBM ServiceLink
>
> I ftped the binary fix file from ptf.boulder.ibm.com onto my PC, then
> ftped it onto the mainframe as a CMS (binary) file. It displayed as a
> normal job, then I spooled my punch to my VSE machine and did a CMS
> PUNCH for the file.
>
> All the fixes went in OK except for this one. I went back to
ServiceLink
> and re-ordered just this fix and put it on CMS. It matches with the
> first one so I don't think it is a transmission problem.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
d***@courts.state.va.us
2007-04-18 20:12:11 UTC
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What is the 'CMS' that has been referred to several times in this thread?
I am not familiar with it (except in VM).

Don Abbate
Supreme Court of Virginia
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Hello Mike,

As everyone has said, you need to send it to a FILE (IJSYSPF).

I tried and tried to use CMS too. Just does not work.
MSHP has to apply the co and pre requisites at the same time.

Plus it does run much faster.

Ed Martin
Aultman Health Foundation
330-588-4723
***@aultman.com
ext. 40441
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-vse-***@Lehigh.EDU [mailto:owner-vse-***@Lehigh.EDU] On Behalf
Of
> Horlick, Michael
> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 3:15 PM
> To: VSE Discussion List
> Subject: RE: Ordering PTFs from IBM ServiceLink
>
> I ftped the binary fix file from ptf.boulder.ibm.com onto my PC, then
> ftped it onto the mainframe as a CMS (binary) file. It displayed as a
> normal job, then I spooled my punch to my VSE machine and did a CMS
> PUNCH for the file.
>
> All the fixes went in OK except for this one. I went back to
ServiceLink
> and re-ordered just this fix and put it on CMS. It matches with the
> first one so I don't think it is a transmission problem.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
Ed Zell
2007-04-18 20:16:21 UTC
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> What is the 'CMS' that has been referred to several times
> in this thread? I am not familiar with it (except in VM).


I think it means CMS under VM. They are uploading the PTF
to their CMS disk as a binary file. When you XEDIT it, it
is a VSE job stream that is then punched to the VSE machine
where you want it to run.

What I don't understand is why that wouldn't always work.
But then again, MSHP and I have never been on good terms!

Ed Zell
Illinois Mutual Life
(309) 674-8255 x-107
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Thanks for the explanation, Ed. That is how I apply PTFs and have not had
any problems so far. With 10 VSEs on 2 different processors it is much
easier to build the job twice and submit it, then have to go through 10
uploads to VSE.

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> What is the 'CMS' that has been referred to several times
> in this thread? I am not familiar with it (except in VM).


I think it means CMS under VM. They are uploading the PTF
to their CMS disk as a binary file. When you XEDIT it, it
is a VSE job stream that is then punched to the VSE machine
where you want it to run.

What I don't understand is why that wouldn't always work.
But then again, MSHP and I have never been on good terms!

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owner-vse-***@Lehigh.EDU wrote on 04/18/2007 04:11:24 PM:
> What is the 'CMS' that has been referred to several times in this thread?
> I am not familiar with it (except in VM).

That be what they're talking about. One in the same.

Sincerely,

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David Stuart
2007-04-18 15:56:00 UTC
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Michael,

In the case of 'superceded PTFs', when that is checked I believe that
if the PTF you are ordering has been superceded, you will receive the
superceding PTF. If not checked, then you will receive the PTF you
ordered, even though superceding PTFs exist.


Dave



Dave Stuart
Prin. Info. Systems Support Analyst
County of Ventura, CA
805-662-6731
***@ventura.org

>>> ***@cgi.com 4/18/2007 8:40 AM >>>
Actually, I was thinking that except I was wondering if the superseded
ones would result in getting all the base fixes that were in the
product
which would be a lot.

I found it a bit confusing that you can ask for "requisites" and
"superseded PTFs". Obviously, you want all the requisites for a fix.
Who
cares about its superseded ones?

Thanks

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-vse-***@Lehigh.EDU [mailto:owner-vse-***@Lehigh.EDU] On Behalf
Of Eric Schadow
Sent: April 18, 2007 11:22 AM
To: VSE Discussion List
Subject: Re: Ordering PTFs from IBM ServiceLink

Mike

At 10:36 AM 4/18/2007, you wrote:
>Greetings,
>
>I just went to the PSP bucket for z/VSE 4.1.0 and decided to order
all
the fixes there through IBM ServiceLink. It brings me to a screen
where
I see:
>
>Include requisites?
>Include superseded PTFs?
>Include superseding PTFs?
>Include IFREQS?
>Include PE fixes?


I would select them all.

The IFREQS are applied IF a product is installed. This usually shows
up
with the VSE generation feature... IF you have it installed the PTF
will
be applied.

PE are PTF in ERROR.... another acronym with an acronym....





Eric Schadow
Mainframe Technical Support
www.davisvision.com




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Yeah, that makes sense.

Thanks

Mike

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Of David Stuart
Sent: April 18, 2007 11:55 AM
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Subject: RE: Ordering PTFs from IBM ServiceLink

Michael,

In the case of 'superceded PTFs', when that is checked I believe that
if the PTF you are ordering has been superceded, you will receive the
superceding PTF. If not checked, then you will receive the PTF you
ordered, even though superceding PTFs exist.


Dave



Dave Stuart
Prin. Info. Systems Support Analyst
County of Ventura, CA
805-662-6731
***@ventura.org

>>> ***@cgi.com 4/18/2007 8:40 AM >>>
Actually, I was thinking that except I was wondering if the superseded
ones would result in getting all the base fixes that were in the
product
which would be a lot.

I found it a bit confusing that you can ask for "requisites" and
"superseded PTFs". Obviously, you want all the requisites for a fix.
Who
cares about its superseded ones?

Thanks

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-vse-***@Lehigh.EDU [mailto:owner-vse-***@Lehigh.EDU] On Behalf
Of Eric Schadow
Sent: April 18, 2007 11:22 AM
To: VSE Discussion List
Subject: Re: Ordering PTFs from IBM ServiceLink

Mike

At 10:36 AM 4/18/2007, you wrote:
>Greetings,
>
>I just went to the PSP bucket for z/VSE 4.1.0 and decided to order
all
the fixes there through IBM ServiceLink. It brings me to a screen
where
I see:
>
>Include requisites?
>Include superseded PTFs?
>Include superseding PTFs?
>Include IFREQS?
>Include PE fixes?


I would select them all.

The IFREQS are applied IF a product is installed. This usually shows
up
with the VSE generation feature... IF you have it installed the PTF
will
be applied.

PE are PTF in ERROR.... another acronym with an acronym....





Eric Schadow
Mainframe Technical Support
www.davisvision.com




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Mike

we usually binary FTP the PTF's to a VSE SAM file at 80/10320 and then run MSHP like this

* $$ JOB JNM=T16190,USER=MSHP-INSTUP,DISP=D,CLASS=0
* $$ LST DISP=H,CLASS=E
// JOB T16190
// DLBL IJSYSPF,'C000.IBM.PTF.UD53024'
// EXTENT SYS010,CKDCC3
// ASSGN SYS010,DISK,VOL=CKDCC3,SHR
// EXEC MSHP,SIZE=1M
INSTALL SERVICE FROMDISK
/*
/&
* $$ EOJ

MSHP "eats" all the cards and then figures out what needs to be installed.

Eric


At 03:20 PM 4/18/2007, you wrote:
>I just a reply from IBM that it can't be installed as a SYSIN job but
>through IUI.
>
>Regards
>
>Mike
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-vse-***@Lehigh.EDU [mailto:owner-vse-***@Lehigh.EDU] On Behalf
>Of Horlick, Michael
>Sent: April 18, 2007 3:15 PM
>To: VSE Discussion List
>Subject: RE: Ordering PTFs from IBM ServiceLink
>
>I ftped the binary fix file from ptf.boulder.ibm.com onto my PC, then
>ftped it onto the mainframe as a CMS (binary) file. It displayed as a
>normal job, then I spooled my punch to my VSE machine and did a CMS
>PUNCH for the file.
>
>All the fixes went in OK except for this one. I went back to ServiceLink
>and re-ordered just this fix and put it on CMS. It matches with the
>first one so I don't think it is a transmission problem.
>
>Regards,
>
>Mike
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-vse-***@Lehigh.EDU [mailto:owner-vse-***@Lehigh.EDU] On Behalf
>Of ***@aol.com
>Sent: April 18, 2007 2:45 PM
>To: VSE Discussion List
>Subject: Re: Ordering PTFs from IBM ServiceLink
>
>You didn't, by any chance, upload the fixes into the RDR queue did you?
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: ***@cgi.com
>To: vse-***@Lehigh.EDU
>Sent: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 2:30 PM
>Subject: RE: Ordering PTFs from IBM ServiceLink
>
>Greetings,
>
>I tried both ways (with only the requisites and with all selected) and
>got the same fixes ordered.
>
>Being a good boy that I am I ordered them all from the PSP bucket for
>z/VSE 4.1.0 (PTFs UK22041, UK22056, UD53136 and UK21783) except for 1
>that applied to CICS/VSE (we only run CICS/TS).
>
>The first fix cancelled with :
>
>BG 0000 M275I CATALOG OF MEMBERS IN PROGRESS
>BG 0000 0P72I READING PAST /& STATEMENT
>BG 0000 0S00I JOB UK22041 CANCELED
>
>Then all the "jobs" within started to execute after. Finally after they
>cancelled the other fixes went in OK.
>
>I opened a PMR with IBM on this.
>
>Cheerio for now :)
>
>Mike
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-vse-***@Lehigh.EDU [mailto:owner-vse-***@Lehigh.EDU] On Behalf
>Of Eric Schadow
>Sent: April 18, 2007 11:22 AM
>To: VSE Discussion List
>Subject: Re: Ordering PTFs from IBM ServiceLink
>
>Mike
>
>At 10:36 AM 4/18/2007, you wrote:
>>Greetings,
>>
>>I just went to the PSP bucket for z/VSE 4.1.0 and decided to order all
>the fixes there through IBM ServiceLink. It brings me to a screen where
>I see:
>>
>>Include requisites?
>>Include superseded PTFs?
>>Include superseding PTFs?
>>Include IFREQS?
>>Include PE fixes?
>
>
>I would select them all.
>
>The IFREQS are applied IF a product is installed. This usually shows up
>with the VSE generation feature... IF you have it installed the PTF will
>be applied.
>
>PE are PTF in ERROR.... another acronym with an acronym....
>
>
>
>
>
>Eric Schadow
>Mainframe Technical Support
>www.davisvision.com
>
>
>
>
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Or you can use Virtual Tape, and read it off your PC...


Dave

Dave Stuart
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***@ventura.org

>>> ***@gmail.com 4/18/2007 12:24 PM >>>
Correct, it must be FTPed to the IJSYSPF file and applied from there.

On 4/18/07, Horlick, Michael <***@cgi.com> wrote:
>
> I just a reply from IBM that it can't be installed as a SYSIN job
but
> through IUI.
>
> Regards
>
> Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-vse-***@Lehigh.EDU [mailto:owner-vse-***@Lehigh.EDU] On
Behalf
> Of Horlick, Michael
> Sent: April 18, 2007 3:15 PM
> To: VSE Discussion List
> Subject: RE: Ordering PTFs from IBM ServiceLink
>
> I ftped the binary fix file from ptf.boulder.ibm.com onto my PC,
then
> ftped it onto the mainframe as a CMS (binary) file. It displayed as
a
> normal job, then I spooled my punch to my VSE machine and did a CMS
> PUNCH for the file.
>
> All the fixes went in OK except for this one. I went back to
ServiceLink
> and re-ordered just this fix and put it on CMS. It matches with the
> first one so I don't think it is a transmission problem.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-vse-***@Lehigh.EDU [mailto:owner-vse-***@Lehigh.EDU] On
Behalf
> Of ***@aol.com
> Sent: April 18, 2007 2:45 PM
> To: VSE Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Ordering PTFs from IBM ServiceLink
>
> You didn't, by any chance, upload the fixes into the RDR queue did
you?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ***@cgi.com
> To: vse-***@Lehigh.EDU
> Sent: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 2:30 PM
> Subject: RE: Ordering PTFs from IBM ServiceLink
>
> Greetings,
>
> I tried both ways (with only the requisites and with all selected)
and
> got the same fixes ordered.
>
> Being a good boy that I am I ordered them all from the PSP bucket
for
> z/VSE 4.1.0 (PTFs UK22041, UK22056, UD53136 and UK21783) except for
1
> that applied to CICS/VSE (we only run CICS/TS).
>
> The first fix cancelled with :
>
> BG 0000 M275I CATALOG OF MEMBERS IN PROGRESS
> BG 0000 0P72I READING PAST /& STATEMENT
> BG 0000 0S00I JOB UK22041 CANCELED
>
> Then all the "jobs" within started to execute after. Finally after
they
> cancelled the other fixes went in OK.
>
> I opened a PMR with IBM on this.
>
> Cheerio for now :)
>
> Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-vse-***@Lehigh.EDU [mailto:owner-vse-***@Lehigh.EDU] On
Behalf
> Of Eric Schadow
> Sent: April 18, 2007 11:22 AM
> To: VSE Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Ordering PTFs from IBM ServiceLink
>
> Mike
>
> At 10:36 AM 4/18/2007, you wrote:
> >Greetings,
> >
> >I just went to the PSP bucket for z/VSE 4.1.0 and decided to order
all
> the fixes there through IBM ServiceLink. It brings me to a screen
where
> I see:
> >
> >Include requisites?
> >Include superseded PTFs?
> >Include superseding PTFs?
> >Include IFREQS?
> >Include PE fixes?
>
>
> I would select them all.
>
> The IFREQS are applied IF a product is installed. This usually shows
up
> with the VSE generation feature... IF you have it installed the PTF
will
> be applied.
>
> PE are PTF in ERROR.... another acronym with an acronym....
>
>
>
>
>
> Eric Schadow
> Mainframe Technical Support
> www.davisvision.com
>
>
>
>
>
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<<MSHP has to apply the co and pre requisites at the same time.>>

<<What I don't understand is why that wouldn't always work.
But then again, MSHP and I have never been on good terms!>>

There's a document around where IBM states WHY it won't work. I do NOT
recall it being because of co and pre requisites.




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2007-04-18 20:51:12 UTC
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Which is why I use VTAPE. Build it once, and it can run anywhere, as
long as the VTAPE Server is active on my laptop. Admittedly, it is
slower than reading from IJSYSPF (or a VSAM file), but I don't have to
upload it multiple times.


Dave

Dave Stuart
Prin. Info. Systems Support Analyst
County of Ventura, CA
805-662-6731
***@ventura.org

>>> ***@courts.state.va.us 4/18/2007 1:19 PM >>>
Thanks for the explanation, Ed. That is how I apply PTFs and have not
had
any problems so far. With 10 VSEs on 2 different processors it is
much
easier to build the job twice and submit it, then have to go through
10
uploads to VSE.

Don Abbate
Supreme Court of Virginia
(804) 786-4540
Stephen Frazier
2007-04-18 21:14:34 UTC
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2007-04-19 14:53:07 UTC
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VTAPE sounds like it might be the way to go to solve the multiple upload
problem. But doesn't it require VSE connectors to be running, which we
don't use (yet)?

Don Abbate
Supreme Court of Virginia
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Which is why I use VTAPE. Build it once, and it can run anywhere, as
long as the VTAPE Server is active on my laptop. Admittedly, it is
slower than reading from IJSYSPF (or a VSAM file), but I don't have to
upload it multiple times.


Dave

Dave Stuart
Prin. Info. Systems Support Analyst
County of Ventura, CA
805-662-6731
***@ventura.org

>>> ***@courts.state.va.us 4/18/2007 1:19 PM >>>
Thanks for the explanation, Ed. That is how I apply PTFs and have not
had
any problems so far. With 10 VSEs on 2 different processors it is
much
easier to build the job twice and submit it, then have to go through
10
uploads to VSE.

Don Abbate
Supreme Court of Virginia
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<<But doesn't it require VSE connectors to be running, which we don't
use (yet)?>>

Nope. When you crank up a VTAPE job the operating system automatically
PRELEASEs TAPESRVR, which obviously does need to be in the RDR queue.
Other than this you need the client installed on a PC and it needs to
be running IF you are going to VTAPE something to/from a PC. If your
going to use VSAM VTAPE this is NOT needed.


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To: vse-***@Lehigh.EDU
Sent: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 10:52 AM
Subject: RE: Ordering PTFs from IBM ServiceLink

VTAPE sounds like it might be the way to go to solve the multiple upload
problem. But doesn't it require VSE connectors to be running, which we
don't use (yet)?

Don Abbate
Supreme Court of Virginia
(804) 786-4540




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Which is why I use VTAPE. Build it once, and it can run anywhere, as
long as the VTAPE Server is active on my laptop. Admittedly, it is
slower than reading from IJSYSPF (or a VSAM file), but I don't have to
upload it multiple times.


Dave

Dave Stuart
Prin. Info. Systems Support Analyst
County of Ventura, CA
805-662-6731
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>>> ***@courts.state.va.us 4/18/2007 1:19 PM >>>
Thanks for the explanation, Ed. That is how I apply PTFs and have not
had
any problems so far. With 10 VSEs on 2 different processors it is
much
easier to build the job twice and submit it, then have to go through
10
uploads to VSE.

Don Abbate
Supreme Court of Virginia
(804) 786-4540







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